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Mormegil · Jun 06, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07

I invite all of you! Come visit losers' land!

We have many (oh soooo many) districts: english, german, italian and french, one language=one district!. I'm surprised Arenanet is not planning to create an armenian one, or, why not, a district specifically designed for Sicily, where Cosa Nostra's members can freely discuss about their criminal acts while doing some pvp without being disturbed.
We own the Hall of Heroes so often that european players usually wait more than a week to get to the Underworld (when they're lucky).
And what about PvE? German, french and italian districts are so empty that picking up a group is a pain! The english one is a little better, meaning when you farm in the Ring of Fire for rare drops or elite skills, you can usually find 4 ppl out of 8 slots. The other, rare inhabitants of those areas wander around yelling "WANT TO SELLL VERY GOOD SWORD 13-18 THAT PWNS, THATS TEH BEST SWORD I'VE FIND, PM ME".

Then I come here and read clever discussions about pvping, hints, well thought out posts and so on. Europe saddens me. We were "only" desperate before they splitted the districts, now we're hopeless. Koreans gave up on their social life to play GW, and America is 10 times stronger than Europe. The event of a european guild holding the HoH is rare, for many reasons: GW is quite unknown to european net-gaming (it was out later and our distributors simply suck), AND we've been brutally split.

We won't be able to be competitive. European division is there to help the average 14 yrs old french kid to find a grp and play some PvE, because he doesnt even know a word of English. Same with the italian and spanish guys (german and scandinavian ppl are way better in this).

I'd like to hear your opinions about this horrible situation, even though I guess the majority of the posters here are from US. I will email Arenanet about this issue as soon as possible (avoiding any sarcasm, of course

) but I'm 90% sure it will be totally useless. Kiddies always win.

After a new game is out, a continuous contact among players is required to create a kind of "know-how", an ensemble of shared knowledge which makes the netgaming collectivity grow. I hope you can understand what I mean.

This "know-how" is often the difference between winning and losing.

Cheers from losers' land.

P.S.: finishing the main quest took me a while because there weren't people enough to form a party and kill the Lich, plain and simple. This is absurd.

dbgtboy · Jun 06, 2005, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mormegil

We own the Hall of Heroes so often that european players usually wait more than a week to get to the Underworld (when they're lucky).
And what about PvE? German, french and italian districts are so empty that picking up a group is a pain! The english one is a little better, meaning when you farm in the Ring of Fire for rare drops or elite skills, you can usually find 4 ppl out of 8 slots. The other, rare inhabitants of those areas wander around yelling "WANT TO SELLL VERY GOOD SWORD 13-18 THAT PWNS, THATS TEH BEST SWORD I'VE FIND, PM ME".

LMAO, can't stop laughing from this, that is a problem, i highly doubt they'll change it back, just go to american server.

Gerbill · Jun 06, 2005, 12:28 AM // 00:28

that's just bad, we shouldn't have to go to an American server.

I mean the split I understand the languages can bug people it's fine by me really, but then the split at first I thought it would be English, French, German but no had to do more.
how bout just English, Other or something would be a lot better.

I don't think the game isn't known here, overal there are less players here than in Korea and American mhm, but still a pro guild doesn't have to exist out of many players. just good players who can work together.
the districts now are just a pain, I end up only playing with the actual people I know proper PUG's are really hard to find.

C2K · Jun 06, 2005, 01:04 AM // 01:04

I've seen Europe contend for the HoH more frequently of late. They are even holding it more often than they used to. Though I like when America has the favor(so I can get into the Underworld

), I'm always rooting for Europe, no matter who they go against. I'm a fan of underdogs.

Virtuoso · Jun 06, 2005, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Good, my plan is in order. Move to phase 3.

-Virt

Sekkira · Jun 06, 2005, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Well I'm in the Euro server aswell and do find it annoying that sometimes it's really empty. But I know America would be as well. I live in Australia and European/American servers are in completely different timezones. I chose Euro, because the guild was basing itself there (mainly being English, Scottish, Dutch, etc.) so either way I'd see quiet days and such.

However, it's all well and good complaining about this but what do you propose to do about it? I mean, you could join the Euro and US servers but then it'd totally screw up everything and I'd feel sorry for the Koreans as they'd be competing against Europe and America in a single team. They aren't THAT godly at games.

Although I suppose you could join all the servers into one real world server but keep your country preference so you could go in with plenty of players from different countries and the majority of players from a country will be what that team will be fighting for. Say 3 Americans and 5 Europeans, the team would then be fighting for Europe if they went in the HoH tourney, or the team could be allowed into the underworld when Europe holds the HoH because the majority are Europeans. It can go any way aswell.

Druadan Winterblade · Jun 06, 2005, 02:01 AM // 02:01

I went to the American server a while ago because finding an english-speaking group was a pain. I swear German keybords have a button that types out "hi ger?" for them, 'cause that's all I ever used to see.

Then when ArenaNet said they were putting in language districts, I got all pleased 'cause I could return home. Now I have, and now I'm happy.

All the non-english european people who can speak english come into the english districts to find a group anyway. And I notice us having the HoH more than I did prior to the language districts. That could be because I wasn't looking before, but would be good to see some stats.

spiritofcat · Jun 06, 2005, 02:46 AM // 02:46

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Originally Posted by Sekkira

Well I'm in the Euro server aswell and do find it annoying that sometimes it's really empty. But I know America would be as well. I live in Australia and European/American servers are in completely different timezones.

I'm an Aussie too, as you well know, and I'm in the American world and it's always teeming with people, whatever time it is over there when I'm playing.

dantic vai · Jun 06, 2005, 02:59 AM // 02:59

I think most aussies go straight to the us servers, I first tried european, but found it hard to get many people to team up. US always has people to play with

egads · Jun 06, 2005, 03:11 AM // 03:11

I've been on the American server from the start, partly because everyone speaks English there, but also because I suspected that some of the things mentioned here were going to happen. Lag is not an issue at all (I'm almost always first or second into an instanced area), and this server holds the HoH almost exclusively when I'm on. I'm glad I decided to use one of my 5 chances to change servers at the very beginning.

I suppose I'm part of the problem.

Vermilion Okeanos · Jun 06, 2005, 05:11 AM // 05:11

I think they should have sell this game in the dark ages when europe is pretty much under chalamanae (spelling)'s rule or maybe back in iron age of roman empire. Then the language problem would be solve.

Mormegil · Jun 06, 2005, 05:17 AM // 05:17

Sadly, I just switched to the american territory, and life is much different there. Crowded servers, ppl who always want to team up and so on. I finally got into the Underworld and enjoyed it as it was meant to be.

There are always ppl, no matter the time, mainly because of west-east coast timezones I guess.
They are more experienced as well, it's quite evident.

They aren't nicer, not at all, but I don't care...when I feel like I want to play with friends or with my guild, I can always get to the international districts.

Oh, and I didnt experience lag whatsoever....10mbit connection here.

I think most of the european ppl who really want to stay competitive will switch to US. One could always go back to EU later, with much more experience of the game, elite skills and good items/runes. That said, EU should get competitive by that time, which I'm not sure will happen.

Willow · Jun 06, 2005, 06:48 AM // 06:48

I often notice Europe holding the hall of heroes when I log on...

First the Europeans are complaining about no-language districts, and now they don't like them? Geez.

Deagol · Jun 06, 2005, 07:05 AM // 07:05

I started on the American server and plan to stay there, despite being from Denmark. There are always people there, even in the most remote districts.

I think nationalism and geographical boundaries are stupid and out-dated and hate the whole Worlds-at-War idea. I encourage all English-speaking Europeans to join the American server.

A poll on the Swedish GW site indicate that a third of them play on the American server.

Amigo · Jun 06, 2005, 07:14 AM // 07:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mormegil

I invite all of you! Come visit losers' land!

We own the Hall of Heroes so often that european players usually wait more than a week to get to the Underworld (when they're lucky).
And what about PvE? German, french and italian districts are so empty that picking up a group is a pain! The english one is a little better, meaning when you farm in the Ring of Fire for rare drops or elite skills, you can usually find 4 ppl out of 8 slots. The other, rare inhabitants of those areas wander around yelling "WANT TO SELLL VERY GOOD SWORD 13-18 THAT PWNS, THATS TEH BEST SWORD I'VE FIND, PM ME".

We won't be able to be competitive. European division is there to help the average 14 yrs old french kid to find a grp and play some PvE, because he doesnt even know a word of English. Same with the italian and spanish guys (german and scandinavian ppl are way better in this).

I'd like to hear your opinions about this horrible situation, even though I guess the majority of the posters here are from US. I will email Arenanet about this issue as soon as possible (avoiding any sarcasm, of course

) but I'm 90% sure it will be totally useless. Kiddies always win.

After a new game is out, a continuous contact among players is required to create a kind of "know-how", an ensemble of shared knowledge which makes the netgaming collectivity grow. I hope you can understand what I mean.

This "know-how" is often the difference between winning and losing.

Cheers from losers' land.

P.S.: finishing the main quest took me a while because there weren't people enough to form a party and kill the Lich, plain and simple. This is absurd.

Why ppl still crying and winning?i am sure u are the best player in europe and others just sucks but ...
when i look to ur post i only see ("cry cry cry cry cry, they suck im good,cry cry cry").
ok man just leave the "europe division" and go to american, then u will find good players.

john little · Jun 06, 2005, 07:37 AM // 07:37

When the european guilds/PUG's are good enough, it will be more competitive. But it's gonna take time. Last time i posted one of these kind of replies europe ended up holding HoH for a decent amount of time. Switching to the US server increases the problem rather than solving it.

BrokenSymmetry · Jun 06, 2005, 07:55 AM // 07:55

This is a serious problem though. Right now, in some outposts, on a regular weekday-night, you won't find more than a handful of people in the English Euro district. How will this be in a few months time, when there are even less people playing the game in Europe? Some quests may become impossible to complete for Europeans. Or let's just hope that the AI of the henchmen gets a smarter...

Feli · Jun 06, 2005, 08:09 AM // 08:09

Ah... come on. I did not want a district for every single language out there...
But honestly, what has it done to europe (you can always switch the regional settings to come and visit europe once in case you doubt the written words in this thread).

The english people who are playing for europe probably just messed up their regional settings, the french people... well. Go ahead and try to convince a french person to speak english. Even if he does know how to speak it, he will totally refuse to do so in 90 % of the time if there is another french person in the group.

Go for the germans, yeah save europe... blah. Ever been to the german districts and understand a little bit of german swearing? Yeah, then you know those german channels are flooded with kiddie morons. Sad to say, as i am coming from germany... germanys behaviour in games sucks big time.

Let's try the other european districts. Ok... to be honest i got not clue what they are saying but judging from the amount playing there it has got to be something like "Can someone please invite some of his guild to come here plz? It is so fricking lonely!"

And then there are the dutch... they are still stuck in ascalon as they are trying to teach europe the english language and some common behaviour.

"Just go into the english districts"
Yeah sure... if i do i get kicked out of the teams as the name on my monk is a german word i get comments like "Go home nazi!". Same silly comments (only other words) goes to the french people who get thrown out of the english districts on a daily base. So the "play in the english districts!" doesn't really work. They want their peace there. They are probably quite happy to have been seperated from europes' scum like france or germarny.

Weezer_Blue · Jun 06, 2005, 08:44 AM // 08:44

Wow... That sucks. You might be better off switching to the American server, since you speak english well. I think a lot of europeans already have. They need to do something to fix this problem.

Red Rumm · Jun 06, 2005, 09:07 AM // 09:07

Well you should have some decent support out of Germany. I spent 7 years there and I know alot of American soldiers put their time into gaming and I also met many serious hardcore German gamers. So I don't believe it's hopeless.